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Bane
on: 19 Nov 2009 [00:12]
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3000 TROOPS. 1000 Archers, 500 Rangers, 150 Norman, and the rest made up of swordmeat. On Ranged and agressive. Attack a city with 2000 Troops. 1000 Archers, 200 Horse Archers, the rest made up with never ending swordmen.
There is no wall between us, he is not there as he did not try and attack me(He must be on the same Range). Three spots inbetween us( Yes three in the middle).
HOW THE HELL DOES HE WASTE AWAY MOST OF THE TROOPS.
one hit for me is 7swordmen one hit for him is 30 swordmen, 9 Men at Arms, and 4 Pike. It went on like this for awhile. He does not have any ranged troops i repeat no range troops.
I ended up leaving with 1000 troops.
I just dont get this at all, and this is not the first time this has happenned. Is it because i am not buying Gold or something and i lose double what i should so i start spending money.
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little
on: 20 Nov 2009 [18:43]
updated: 20 Nov 2009 [18:54]
Bane, what about my question?
Quote little:
One more question: How you can see the enemy at range 4? Do you have a hero with master scout skill?

I try to restore picture of the battle. Without such hero you can't simply shoot with Normans, cause enemy will see you, and come closer too retaliate. If you use a scout, whey will try to engage your scout.

The only answers I can find are:
1) A hero with master scout skill.
2) Using maneuvering with scouts.
3) Maneuvering with main army, which is not simple and very boring, cause yours and enemy army speeds are near the same.
Bane
on: 20 Nov 2009 [21:46]
(:attack:)He was not moving, but had (:attack:) on with no timer. i was sat with 3 spots inbetween and he still hits me. This my friend is whats the problem.
I have sent my whole army back to him, and will report what happens.
Apart from my hero, my Rangers+Archers combined and the Norman Archers have a range of 4. Put together with Hero and thats how i could see him.
SerbanVoda
Moderator
on: 20 Nov 2009 [22:44]
updated: 20 Nov 2009 [22:45]
Bane, i understand your anger but please, try to understand ... everybody is trying to help .. well, almost everybody (:s1:) ... what you are saying now is quite a novelty, at least for me ... you are saying that if i have a ranger or more and some norman archers plus some archers their combined sight goes to 4 ? sorry but ... on what server ? ... if what you say is true it means we must reconsider all tactics and battle approach.
acf245
on: 20 Nov 2009 [23:47]
Quote TomiBullet:
my hero is on level 7 and has archery expert...his hero is on level 5


how do you find out what level the enemy's hero is? i can never tell...
TomiBullet
on: 21 Nov 2009 [01:00]
Quote acf245:
i can never tell...

u cant, i can!
Quote acf245:
how do you find out what level the enemy's hero is?

stats! gives u a lots of important infos! (:s11:)
RileytheGreat
on: 21 Nov 2009 [01:01]
Well they would probably pop up in the tavern after u kill them, and then u could see there stats (:s1:)
TomiBullet
on: 21 Nov 2009 [01:01]
Quote acf245:
i can never tell...

u cant, i can!
Quote acf245:
how do you find out what level the enemy's hero is?

stats! gives u a lots of important infos! (:s11:)
little
on: 21 Nov 2009 [01:22]
updated: 21 Nov 2009 [01:47]
Quote Bane:
Apart from my hero, my Rangers+Archers combined and the Norman Archers have a range of 4. Put together with Hero and thats how i could see him.

I don't understand this. Using such logic I can say that if I combine Catapults with Knights I'll get Knights with ability to shoot at range 5.

I repeat second time: There is no units or combination of units, that gives you sight 4. The only such unit is the hero with master scout skill. Only such hero has sight 4. If you combine Archers, Norman Archers and Rangers, you'll get the army with sight 3 and range 4. But only Normans will shoot at range 4, Archers at range 3 and Rangers at range 1.

Imagine that you have a rifle with effective shooting range 1km. Default scope gives you ability to see as far as 2km (shooting range still 1km). You get a sniper scope with 3km sight. You put it on your rifle, but still can shoot only in 1km range.
You called a sniper with a long range (3km) rifle, but he has only 2km sight with his rifle scope. But you can help him to aim at much longer range. You say "enemy between 2 trees on the hill", sniper shoot at this target.
In this sample sniper is an analog of Archer and you is an analog of Ranger. If you combine both of them - you just get something like Archers with sight 3 instead of 2. If you add Normans, you'll also get Normans with sight 3 instead of 2.

So if you haven't such hero (sight 4), and have seen the enemy, the only true answer is that the distance were only 3 squares, not 4.
ukrunner
on: 23 Nov 2009 [07:02]
ok I have a question. I player that much stronger than I am and seems to be involved in forums a lot told me that if you have an army with say like 1000 Archers than only like 250 of them will be able to shoot. So basically only at most 250 of each kind of troop can shoot/fight. Is this true?? Seems kind of stupid but he is a very experienced player and is my ally so I do not think that he would lie to me. Please let me know, thank you!
Artemis Cahill
on: 23 Nov 2009 [07:28]
idk srry...but i think it sounds like something to do with morale...
thundercat194
on: 24 Nov 2009 [01:51]
yes, all your troops will attack at once unless you have more than 1 group on the same spot with no hero.

I heard morale only affects your guys if they are on the same spot. Is this true?
ukrunner
on: 13 Dec 2009 [20:45]
so is it ok to have one big army with like over 1k of each shooting unit?
skullbotrock
on: 13 Dec 2009 [22:07]
Its okay but not necessarily the best strategy
ukrunner
on: 14 Dec 2009 [23:46]
why not?
skullbotrock
on: 15 Dec 2009 [02:29]
only a few of each troop type will attack per turn
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