Attention all players, we have some urgent news for you!
We have fixed a serious bug that allowed players to have more vassals than the actual limit allowed (your bonus combined with the Order bonus from skill “Vassalage”), except Order Master.
All players that were using this bug are provided with 14 days (until October 2, 2012) to break their “extra” vassal treaties and to ensure that they have legit number of vassals.
Otherwise, the system will automatically break non-legit contracts in random order and accounts witnessed to be abusing this bug will be banned permanently.
We strongly recommend you to break the vassal contracts right now, to ensure your account does not get banned.
To make sure you did not use the bug, you should compare the spent amount of vassal points, which is shown in the “Obelisk of Glory” building combined with the bonus provided by skill “Vassalage” in the “Politics – Order” tab, with the number of vassals shown in the “Relations – My Vassals” tab.
The automatic dissolving of vassal contracts will be performed on all of 1100AD servers, but the actual time of this event may differ from server to server.
Thank you for your attention.
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chessnick
on: 18 Sep 2012 [21:51]
how much vasalls can have the guild-leader (so much he have mercury-points or only the they have in orderskills)?
crimson
on: 18 Sep 2012 [21:57]
order members = order level rank
Vassals = order vassal rank
Silverskin
on: 18 Sep 2012 [22:06]
Equality for all!
chessnick
on: 18 Sep 2012 [22:06]
updated: 18 Sep 2012 [22:07]
but actually all guild-leader could have so much vasals they have in obelisk not in order vasal rank. Only guild member can have so much vasalls like in order vasal rank
for example for grail:
in obelisk i have 73 points
in order vasal rank we have 27
how much vasall can i now have as guild-leader?
(actually i could take 73 vasals - and this was not a bug)
ttg
on: 18 Sep 2012 [22:30]
Not sure what should happen;
As an order member with and Order 'Vassals' parameter of '9 order vassals limit', and 3 vassal points at my Obelisk, should I only have 3 vassals as my current value?
If so why pay gold for a limit that is not applied to others?
jokertr
on: 18 Sep 2012 [23:03]
I think it's easy to say "we have found a bug" - but not forget the bug is here a long time and many Lords spend gold for Vasalls, so that they can buy a abo or build faster more cities. I don't use the bug, but of course i have spend gold for some of my vasalls. I hope we lost not good player here!
And to the second bug its easy - its a important fun-factor and every time a little surprise if you found artifacts - if that is low or like now, stop totaly then its the same with the fun in the game...
jesusca1
on: 18 Sep 2012 [23:52]
what about the players who have used this bug? and players who have lost their armies through this? the rules are clear if you find a bug quickly communicate to Riga. In the Spanish translation of the game there is a problem, the translation was terrible and we've been playing badly too long, Spanish contact UB riga need to explain this malisima translations, put several tickets but we are still waiting for answer.
Twipsy37
on: 19 Sep 2012 [00:30]
updated: 19 Sep 2012 [00:36]
When it comes to who suffered from server rollback, we are two now. Still waiting for answer. @topic: Seems, noone in Riga has checked the vassal number so far. Seems, gold was accepted. Now, all will be reduced. Will gold be refunded? (Btw: I am not struck by that).
Edit: There is also a statistic, so its known...
http://1100ad.com/de/library/statistics/grail.1100ad.com/topVassalPoints
konnormcleod
on: 19 Sep 2012 [18:13]
Question: Just to make something clear If I am an order master I am not limited by the order vassal limit. correct?
Example: If I rule over an order with 25 vassal spots available, and I myself have more than that amount of vassals/ vassal points in my obelisk I will not have to remove my vassals correct? I would like it if a moderator or a developer could confirm or deny this so that I have no chance of being ban after the 14 days, have expired, if the person is incorrect.
thank you
Achilles5
on: 20 Sep 2012 [00:57]
KannNixBaby
on: 20 Sep 2012 [09:34]
hi nick (and the others)
if the order-master can have as much vasalls he want, what do you think will happens now?
all member who have used the bug, known or unknown, will give the needless vasalls to order-master. the order-master only have to increase his spots. its expensive but cheaper than increase the order-spots.
and in the future, the order-master just have to apearance and the fight is won.
i think its a good way to fix the bug !!! member or order-master, all have to consider the vasall-limit of the order.
if there are too much vasalls, you (all) can give them to players who dont have much vasalls so every member can grow up and not just a few.
LA1115
Moderator
on: 20 Sep 2012 [17:50]
The official answer can only be given by Ambergames. I asked them to do so.
Kindred
on: 21 Sep 2012 [14:15]
updated: 21 Sep 2012 [14:17]
I'm sorry. But i would like some clarification
If i have 10 vassals places in my obelisk and my order has 10 vassals in the order skills.
What does that mean?
1: I can have 10 vassals, as per my obelisk?
or
2: I can have 20 vassals, as per my obelisk PLUS my order vassal skills bonus?
Am i only allowed the number of vassals that are quoted in the order skill rating, regardless of the amount of points i have bought?
ALSO
As i understand it: The difference for the order master is. All order members are vassals of the order master. So they are limited by the numbers of members plus the normal vassal rules.
If this is wrong can you please explain....... Many people actually want to follow the rules!
LA1115
Moderator
on: 21 Sep 2012 [15:27]
In this case you can have 10 vassals.
The maximum number of vasalls you can have is defined by the LOWER one of :
- obelisk number (your number)
- vassal skill rating(of your order)
This rule is valid for order members!
For an official answer concerning the order master you have to ask the support.
Maddog
on: 21 Sep 2012 [19:44]
updated: 21 Sep 2012 [19:46]
do you know something that the rest of us do not?
is the "bug" they are talking about applied to the Order Masters?
or is this only applied to Order Members that somehow hired more vassals than the Order Skill allowed?
I'm not saying that I disagree with some of what you wrote...but I, as well as others would like to know the answer. I know that our Order Master does not have more vassals than the Order Skill allows, but I know at least 1 order that the Master does have more vassals than the skill.
Since the creation of Orders...the Order master did not have to follow the limitations of the Order Vassal Skill. So, if this is the "bug" being talked about...then I say that some Order Masters have a legitimate complaint about it being removed.
